What was the bigger lie? Pete Rose lying about not betting on baseball, or Lance Armstrong saying he did not use PED's?

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Biggest lie

  • Lance Armstrong

    Votes: 31 88.6%
  • Pete Rose

    Votes: 4 11.4%

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Pretty close call.
I dont imagine the vote will go too much in one direction or the other.

Talk about 2 people who sold a lie for years.
Both wrote books declaring they did not do what they were accused of.
Both did hundreds of interviews saying they did not do what they were both accused of.

But ultimately both of them in the end got caught after living a lie for years and years.

Which one of these was the worst?
You can make a case for either one.

Lance Armstrong was the least surprising. Heck probably every person who finishes in the top 10 of the toure de france takes PED's of some sort or another.
But the length's he went through to tell people he was the exception was almost just as bad as the deed itself.
He may have told more people and lied in more interviews then even Pete Rose did.

It has almost got to the point where Armstrongs lie is almost as bad as the actual deed.
Not only has he lied to millions, he has spent millions to cover it up.

And after all that he will finally go on Oprah to tell everyone he has been living a lie the last 10 years.

Now we have Pete Rose.
If I had to grade which sin was worse Pete Rose would win.
Although I dont think he ever bet against his own team. If that were ever proved to be the case I would have no sympathy for him at all.

Gambling on baseball as a manager much worse IMO then taking PED's if you are a cyclist.
But at the same time Pete Rose did not go to near the same trouble fighting for his lie as Lance Armstrong.
Also Pete Rose accomplished just about everything he did in his career on his own.

You can easily say Pete Rose had a HOF career without ever needing to bet on baseball.

On the other hand you can make the case that Lance Armstrong may not have won a single Tour De France without taking PED's.

I think these are the 2 biggest lie's in sports of the last 50 years besides OJ lying about not killing two people.
But im not going to waste my time putting that piece of shit in the poll.
 

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Lance Armstrong for me.. he affected many nations with his deception and also put a black mark on an entire sport...imo it would be like as if the steroid era in baseball would have been focused on just one player instead of many.

-murph
 

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Armstrong , No doubt, I don't think it was ever proven ( I may be wrong) that Pete ever bet on baseball while he was playing. Armstrong used continuously to keep winning.
 

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I guess one of these days all of the athletes will be on a banned list. Did lance ever take a positive test or was he proven quilty because of the witnesses or teammates that saw him. Everytime i hear someone broke another record especially after a mediocre carrer and then all of a sudden they turn into a supperstar.It is too early in the morning, but who was the player for the Astro's that was never a power hitter, not very musculer and suddenly he is a muscular monster and one of the most powerful hitters in baseball.I wonder how long this has been going on at all levels and which sport came first.I think Flo Jo in wo,en's track and field was probably one of the first. She was a class bor c runner and not even coming close to the records she set that may never be broken. She had retired and was working in a bank and then the next think you see is unbelieveable. Tenths of a second in Track and Field are monstous. Hundred's are even hard to come by. She was winning races by 5 and 10 yards suddenly in the 100 and 200 yard dash and then suddenly she quit and then died not too long after that. Did she finally realize that she was going to get caught or just realize that she didn't want to get caught. She changed her appearance in about three months.
 

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I guess one of these days all of the athletes will be on a banned list. Did lance ever take a positive test or was he proven quilty because of the witnesses or teammates that saw him. Everytime i hear someone broke another record especially after a mediocre carrer and then all of a sudden they turn into a supperstar.It is too early in the morning, but who was the player for the Astro's that was never a power hitter, not very musculer and suddenly he is a muscular monster and one of the most powerful hitters in baseball.I wonder how long this has been going on at all levels and which sport came first.I think Flo Jo in wo,en's track and field was probably one of the first. She was a class bor c runner and not even coming close to the records she set that may never be broken. She had retired and was working in a bank and then the next think you see is unbelieveable. Tenths of a second in Track and Field are monstous. Hundred's are even hard to come by. She was winning races by 5 and 10 yards suddenly in the 100 and 200 yard dash and then suddenly she quit and then died not too long after that. Did she finally realize that she was going to get caught or just realize that she didn't want to get caught. She changed her appearance in about three months.

Ken Caminiti?
 

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lance for me in a land slide. gave so many people false hope with the LiveStrong Foundation. people donated to that foundation because he was doing this on the up and up. and he sued so many people that were telling the truth back then. this is gonna be very bad for him i think.
 

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if pete rose never bet on his own teams to lose, i have no problem with him betting on baseball.. victimless crime.

lance armstrong is a douche...
 
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Armstrong, just because there is no conceivable way that you can win something 7 times where literally everyone else is on something. Dirtiest sport there is.

Its just not possible to win 7 times, be clean while guys who finished 2,3,4 etc are doping.
 

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Armstrong, just because there is no conceivable way that you can win something 7 times where literally everyone else is on something. Dirtiest sport there is.

Its just not possible to win 7 times, be clean while guys who finished 2,3,4 etc are doping.

This is what my cycling friends have been saying for years.
 

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Not related to the poll question, but is Pete Rose the only person ever to be given a jail sentence (or just be convicted) for paying someone a small fee (around 10%) to cash a racetrack ticket for them at the IRS window ?
 

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